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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.12 23:12:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:I mean I have to figure that's the reason. It is always basically a massacre, so there really is no challenge.
I'm going to tell you the same thing I told myself back when Gallente were getting mopped up. Htfu. But let me expand on that. You Caldari guys need to organize better and junk. I guarantee that if you organize better than us, you will have better wins. We have blueberries who don't know what they're doing and then we have squads of players who work towards a goal together. Fill your battles with organize squads and use team chat. Even if you lose, the experience and the actual gameplay gets enhanced. It's like working in PC but with less familiarity of your team and getting unknown factors thrown in. :/ I honestly want you guys to do better so that I can say, "You deserve that one" or something of the sort when you win or at least make for an exciting battle.
Its funny trying to organise an FW effort again, last time it was convincing people to jump into a game mode with no benefit which was easy....now that there are benefits It almost impossible to get a coherent bunch of players together.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.12 23:43:00 -
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Bunny Demon wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:I mean I have to figure that's the reason. It is always basically a massacre, so there really is no challenge.
I play Minmatar for RP purposes. Can't stand Amarr. Everyone just wants freedom and anti slavery, I hate the amarr and caldari premises but they look cool as shi* and I use basically only amarr and some caldari suits & weapons (conveniently so I only have to fight for one side)
(( In reality I think every disdains the concept of slavery... but in a game it doesn't really matter, in a dark universe like New Eden harsher methods are required to prevent people tearing themselves apart....the only thing that every truly benefits mankind is unity not social liberties and liberal drug taking.
To me the Gall and Min are basically the most disinteresting racial groups ever created, they have no individuality when compared to other sci fi democracies..... RPing one of them would be intensely boring IMO))
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.12 23:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:I mean I have to figure that's the reason. It is always basically a massacre, so there really is no challenge.
I play Minmatar for RP purposes. Can't stand Amarr. This ^^^
WHICH ARE.
I just created a Minmatar Valklear, ex Bloody Hand, charged with 13 counts of Homicide......on the spot....can I hear your back ground.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 00:01:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:I mean I have to figure that's the reason. It is always basically a massacre, so there really is no challenge.
Its because Assault Combat Rifle is the new EZ mode FOTM Crutch for skill less players.
Bullshit!
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 00:05:00 -
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mollerz wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:I mean I have to figure that's the reason. It is always basically a massacre, so there really is no challenge.
Its because Assault Combat Rifle is the new EZ mode FOTM Crutch for skill less players. False SCR is still way more OP than the CR.
Pretty much....I should know.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 00:35:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:I mean I have to figure that's the reason. It is always basically a massacre, so there really is no challenge.
I play Minmatar for RP purposes. Can't stand Amarr. This ^^^ WHICH ARE. I just created a Minmatar Valklear, ex Bloody Hand, charged with 13 counts of Homicide......on the spot....can I hear your back ground. The enslavement of an entire race? Check. The torture and poisoning of an entire race simply because a Totem Pole willed it? Check. The ability to lock a woman in my household and tell yourself that she truly wants to be there while pretending that you actually want to free her simultaneously. Check. I would go much further, but I've got HAV/AV threads to tend to.
Indeed.
We don't do totem poles....point invalid.
You can ask Satja....technically I have no locks on my doors.....I don't even own the cell I live in...but that's entirely dependant on the Holder I should think, some are good, others not.
Either way those aren't really reasons, just history that really doesn't have anything to do with a Caldari.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:32:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:See, it's like M.A.G.
Minmatar are the, lorewise, underdogs that rose up. Now they're dominating. It's a very appealing side.
Except they aren't......Planetside yes, space side no.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:40:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:True Adamance wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:See, it's like M.A.G.
Minmatar are the, lorewise, underdogs that rose up. Now they're dominating. It's a very appealing side. Except they aren't......Planetside yes, space side no. I thought they went through that whole "indentured servitude" thing? I could easily be wrong; I just play the game.
They did, but currently they are sitting around playing the moody teenager card.
Plus I'm simply bored of having to go through the whole Minmatar/ Amarr argument every couple of days for people who haven't looked into the lore.
Its not fun.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:53:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:True Adamance wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:True Adamance wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:See, it's like M.A.G.
Minmatar are the, lorewise, underdogs that rose up. Now they're dominating. It's a very appealing side. Except they aren't......Planetside yes, space side no. I thought they went through that whole "indentured servitude" thing? I could easily be wrong; I just play the game. They did, but currently they are sitting around playing the moody teenager card. Plus I'm simply bored of having to go through the whole Minmatar/ Amarr argument every couple of days for people who haven't looked into the lore. Its not fun. That's what i'm talking about. They used to be. People hear that and it's like "**** YEAH!" Unless your saying that only a small part of them were a part of that "indentured servitude" thing. Then i'd think it'd be a little bit of something else i've yet to fully think out.
I will summise the entirety of Matari culture.
Were once a diverse and proud people.
Enslaved by the Amarr
Rebelled with the help of the Jove and Gallente
Are pissy little bitches who cant let go of the past
And before anyone tries to argue that all they want are their people back.....there have been numerous sourced examples of the Minmatar abusing, killing, etc converted Matari who do return to the Republic.
((Plus the argument I get out of the Matari RPers are all the same with the same points I can works around, except that people bring their RL opinions into a discussion about the GAME....this was all fine and well a couple of months back but the fact that 90% of the so called Minmatar loyalists know nothing about their faction never stops hurting my brain.))
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:56:00 -
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Cpt Merdock wrote:I would like to also state that not all Amarr players are non team players, or stat padders. Hell half of my corp supports the amarr faction for either gear, meta gaming, or for the hell of it. I dont even hate amarr (Hence my avatar) but I hate reading threads about easy mode just because people cant work together, I heard enough about easy mode in MAG about the SVER faction. It wasnt their fault Zipper made a crappy balance and SVER had the better weapons and maps. Deciding to sum up all of your issues with your faction by saying the enemy team is easy mode is inaccurate at best. Its like me saying that Teamplayers in their prime was easy mode, or better yet Imperfects. Which are all false statements, and maybe you guys need to find a better solution than to whine. Do as some of these people above me have suggested, make channels, advertise, and promote your faction. Get the people actually trying to win together, this is what this game is all about correct? Bringing people together for a certain cause, its why we have a sandbox community, so we can do whatever the hell we want. Start by getting a solid squad together that can get things done, then move on to eight people, then start a channel and advertise that you are trying to win for the Amarr faction. You dont need to be all in the same corp, but you can still work together. Reason why Im offering suggestion is because I am too tired of the Min/Amarr conflict being one sided, I would like a challenge.
Dude you are talking to one of the core Amarr FWer who worked organise and form the PIE GC channel, and was a part of the massive upsurge the Amarr had that allowed them to PLEX 7 systems that very day we went from 20% control to 100% control, and was apart of 4 of those Hub Bashes.
I have done more in terms of FW organisational logistics and fighting than the majority of players in this community.
Arrogant? **** yeah I am, but the efforts of a strong few are being destroyed by the garbage gameplay of newer players. Month ago I would have been all for helping them out, now I just couldn't care less.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:06:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:True Adamance wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:See, it's like M.A.G.
Minmatar are the, lorewise, underdogs that rose up. Now they're dominating. It's a very appealing side. Except they aren't......Planetside yes, space side no. WAIT! HOLD THE PHONE! I reread this and it's making a whole lot more sense. When you said "planetside yes, space side no" you must've meant "dominating" while I had thought you were talking about being "underdogs". In that post of mine, I was saying that they used to be underdogs; an enslaved race or all that other fluff. The "Now they're dominating" was another thought entirely. By that I mean that now since they're doing so well in Dust people notice that and are getting in on that stompage. Like M.A.G. where SVER was the lowest on the totem pole, had duc-...grip tape on their guns, and used a "brothers and comrades" type thing and people were in. Then they just started dominating the game and people vetted over to 'em. It got to the point where there was always twice as many SVER than there were Valor or Raven. DUST 514 isn't at that point yet, I don't think, but Scotty being frightened to incompetence at the sight of all of the Matari is...unsettling.
Valor was supposed to have that feel, SVER were supposed to be the punk rebel type guys, and Raven the high tec best of the best feel.
I loved SVER simply because of the types of weapons they had, AK are my fav guns in any FPS, but Raven were by far the coolest in terms of aesthetics.
I also remember that, but the SVER kids were garbage at that Hijacking mode, and Raven were the **** at it, always retaining the contract bonuses for it, while valor fought with SVER over sabotage.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:20:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:Haha Minmatar FW is anything but easy mode. The Amarr whip ass and that's fact. Of course I'm not gonna give up but yeah not easy mode what so ever. Plus I picked Minmatar because I liked the idea of playing someone with tribal ideas; something not like USA. Honestly it was between Caldari and Minmatar, but I choose Minmatar. Playing Gallente would've been too easy and being Amarr just wasn't my thing.
Fair call, never considered it like that.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:24:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:True Adamance wrote:I just created a Minmatar Valklear, ex Bloody Hand, charged with 13 counts of Homicide......on the spot....can I hear your back ground. I'll take a stab at it. Clan Hannari is a fairly wealthy family of the Sebiestor Tribe from Eram II. No member of the clan has ever been enslaved by the Amarr but they have a history of service to the Republic in fighting against them and any others that threaten the tribe. A cousin of mine, Wolf, was the first capsuleer of the clan. He got his start working for a Gallentean that brought his asteroid mining company to a nearby system. Eventually, Wolf was asked to start the Outriders to provide security for mining operations. As mining shifted to planetary operations the Outriders were freed up for militia duty. Even though my family is wealthy every member starts at the bottom to earn their way. I was offered a position as a starship mechanic with the Red Rock Mining Company maintaining barges. When the CEO, Rees Noturana, was asked by Mordu to help quietly find a candidate or two for the Legion's secret immortal soldier program I was asked if I was interested. I packed up my mechanic's equipment without hesitation and headed off. That suit was one of the first models that became the Logistics M-I that we use today. I dream of the day that I can return to Eram II, in a body based on my original, so that I can ride a horse across the high plains once again.
Nice that was a really good lore savvy character Bio.
I would do more for the Valklear toon but I don't know enough about Minmatar space....I cannot even envision what their planets look like..... I always see Amarr planets as storm or desert planets.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:26:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:True Adamance wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:WAIT! HOLD THE PHONE! I reread this and it's making a whole lot more sense.
When you said "planetside yes, space side no" you must've meant "dominating" while I had thought you were talking about being "underdogs".
In that post of mine, I was saying that they used to be underdogs; an enslaved race or all that other fluff.
The "Now they're dominating" was another thought entirely. By that I mean that now since they're doing so well in Dust people notice that and are getting in on that stompage.
Like M.A.G. where SVER was the lowest on the totem pole, had duc-...grip tape on their guns, and used a "brothers and comrades" type thing and people were in. Then they just started dominating the game and people vetted over to 'em. It got to the point where there was always twice as many SVER than there were Valor or Raven. DUST 514 isn't at that point yet, I don't think, but Scotty being frightened to incompetence at the sight of all of the Matari is...unsettling. Valor was supposed to have that feel, SVER were supposed to be the punk rebel type guys, and Raven the high tec best of the best feel. I loved SVER simply because of the types of weapons they had, AK are my fav guns in any FPS, but Raven were by far the coolest in terms of aesthetics. I also remember that, but the SVER kids were garbage at that Hijacking mode, and Raven were the **** at it, always retaining the contract bonuses for it, while valor fought with SVER over sabotage. I never got that feel from Valor. I got the "we're a traditional group with awesome experience/have fun while doing it" vibe from them. Seemed the closest to modern military...Muricas' anyway. I think they were NA based to. Or was it Alsaskan? Then there's the sleeveless thing. Ya know what? It was a long time ago; can't remember. Valor and Raven were pretty bland compared to SVER. Valor and Raven got actual training courses, but your SVER newbie had to go through what was just recently a battleground. "Initiation. HUHUHUHUH!" It's just too badass compared to the others. Yup. That's mostly how I remember those game modes. Valor had Sabo, Raven had Acquisition all the time, and SVER stomped in Dom. I can't remember when and for how long Valor was just the scrubbiest place to be. I think it might have been from some point up until I left. I'm really hoping Dust doesn't run that route. At worst i'm hoping it's like how the "OP" side changed in M.A.G. Raven and Valor had their time in the spotlight, hopefully these factions get themselves in gear and are able to make a change.
It is taking that route, Gall and Min have had massive player bases for months now. I am now just waiting to get a PS4 so I can try BF4 and the division, but im also considering a gaming pc so I can get into all the other sci fi games coming out next year.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:37:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:True Adamance wrote:Nice that was a really good lore savvy character Bio.
I would do more for the Valklear toon but I don't know enough about Minmatar space....I cannot even envision what their planets look like..... I always see Amarr planets as storm or desert planets. That's just the tip of the iceberg. I have back stories for all my pilots plus six years of recent events including interactions with various live events. I may not be extremely social but I still get involved in my own way. My focus is now on DUST but the pilots are still around doing their thing. There are so many options for planetary environments you can just pick something. http://evemaps.dotlan.net is a great resource for picking a planet too. When all else fails just use Prator.
That's pretty much how True and Leithe are.
I have about 12 years lore for true, 5 for Leithe, and for this Valklear I'm going to need about 7, in game, to tell his story.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:52:00 -
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Rugudorull Apophicyria wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:See, it's like M.A.G.
Minmatar are the, lorewise, underdogs that rose up. Now they're dominating. It's a very appealing side.
I fight for them (and Gallente) because they have stuff I actually want. I'm not slogging through Amarr for some Drop Uplinks that are only 10,000ISK and some reppers and plates I can get out of the Gallente. Was thinking the same thing, heck the Minmatar even have the SEVER (SVER) BPO dropsuit :p
And the Gallente have the Valor, while the Caldari have the Raven....... did you not know this?
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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